Drama-junkies Supporting Donation-Funded “Rescues-Kill Shelters” Are Guilty Of HEARTLESS Executions of Innocent”Rescued Animals”


All Life Matters

When to Euthanize — YesBiscuit Blog

In reading at the link above how making the decision to euthanize beloved animals is often the most difficult decision a loving animal owner will ever have to make, this is why it’s so disturbing that more and more for-profit animal “rescues”/”shelters” that are primarily, or entirely donation-fueled (that’s why they so disingenously pander to the naive, gullible, foolish people on social media with their OFTEN fictional-fantasy, lying stories of their “heroics” because if the public stopped sending them free money, their animal dealerships would fold) kill MANY healthy animals that are supposed to be safe-in-rescue just because:

1. They can’t sell/adopt the animal out for enough money to make it worth their time and money to warrent letting the animal live peacefully in rescue/sanctuary,

2. The rescued animal won’t sell quickly enough so that they can make room for more animals they can beg for “emergency donations” to ‘rescue’;

3. The animal may have mild NON-life threatening physical and/or behavioral issues that will hinder adopting them out with, or without a fee.


The current world of social media “retail rescue” functions off of the high volume, high turnover of animals going in and out of the “rescue-kill shelters”, and “crisis rescuing” which bring in the most money in donations from the naive, easily manipulated, donating public.

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Drama-junkie, entertainment-addicted faux animal lovers in the rescue world tune-in to online social media “rescue” to be entertained, and an “emergency rescue” is orchastrated by the master manipulators at primarily, or entirely donation-fueled and funded “rescues” to play on the social-media-rescue-following publics heartstrings, and loosen their purse strings again, and again, and again like the mundane, daily, and ordinary tasks of everyday rescuing and daily care of animals never can.


The problem with this model of “rescuing” is that there MUST be crisis and a sense of immediacy of “we NEED YOUR MONEY NOW so we can rescue these poor animals” in order for the FREE donation money to keep flowing in to the for-profit retail rescues coffers.

In fact, this accounts for a huge portion of their income stream and monthly nut.

However, what’s a retail rescue to do with the reality of them accumulating more, and more, and more animals that they can’t sell quickly, or can’t sell at all, can’t find foster homes for to get the animals off their feed and maintenance bills that designated donations are raised to cover, can’t get rid of animals that don’t want to die, but badly want to live?


You kill healthy animals, and then convince the foolish, entertainment-addicted public that you had “no other choice” because the animal “had issues”, all while NOT SHOWING VET REPORTS AND EUTHANASIA REPORTS that show WHY and HOW the animal was euthanized/KILLED/EXECUTED.

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It’s an interesting and tragic phenomenon when so many in the public are so quick to follow blindly along when a donation-fueled “rescue” kills animals “they say” ‘needed to die’ in a supposed mercy-killing, but when asked for documentation that illustrates the WHY’S and HOW’S of the killing, they:

*refuse to answer,

*or they are evasive in their answers,

*or they are aggressive and combative in their answers,

*or they sic their thug keyboard-bully followers on anyone that dares to care enough about animals to ask questions

of WHY animals that had thousands of dollars sent in by generous people in the public to rescue them end up being DEAD by:

*chemical euthanasia,



*or disappeared into the black hole of “de-valued animals” that exhausted their “donation-value” have a way of doing.


The trend of people going along with the killings of rescued animals that had donation-money sent in through various unregulated, unaccountable means of payment appears to be hitting it’s peak as more people become suspicious of “rescue-kill shelters” who beg and plead for donation money as new “crisis rescues” appear constantly……….

…..but there are still people that follow the for-profit retail rescues for the entertainment-value that think anything the “rescue sez” is just dandy, which effectively makes the often phony ‘rescues’ asshole enabler followers JUST AS RESPONSIBLE for the KILLING of animals that are supposed to be “rescued and safe”.

These shallow, stupid supporters may have just as well killed the innocent animals themselves, with the poisoned syringe and needle in their grubby hands, or a smoking gun and blood explosions as yet another healthy animal that wants to live, dies instead.

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For those idiotic, heartless, cruel people that go along with the de-valuing of the lives of animals just like your favorite rescues tell you you should:

*you are traitors and betrayors,

*and your shit attitudes in the de-valuing of lives just because you’re too drama-addicted and stupid to realize that YOU, just like the so-called ‘rescued animals’, are props, and pawns, and cogs in a wheel that are being USED to power the enabling of a for-profit animal dealership posing as a “rescue” to buy, sell, barter, trade, and KILL animals when their usefulness is OVER.

YOUR willfully clueless behavior is not going un-noticed by those who are determined to put a stop to the wholesale killing of animals by the money-grubbing serial killers of animals.

Innocent, gentle animals are supposed to be rescued with thousands of dollars of donation money sent in for that purpose.

Instead, MANY are being callously and cruelly killed after their value in bringing in FREE MONEY for the narcissists and sociopaths in social media crisis-rescuing is over.

Crisis-rescue-junkies — keep up your mindless, moronic, junkie-behavior and it will be too late to disassociate yourself from your favorite scammy donation-fueled “rescue-kill shelter” that kills animals and that will be exposed, it’s just a matter of time.

They wouldn’t get away with their despicable killing behavior if YOU weren’t enabling them by being:

*a dumb groupie and cheerleader,

*a donor,

*an excuse-maker,

*and a keyboard-bully attacking people that ask reasonable questions,

for the primary reasons that YOU want to be entertained (to relieve the boredom of your purposeless life?)

*you live vicariously through other people and their manic, mentally unbalanced behavior

and you for some sad reason also pathetically have the NEED to belong.

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You can still redeem yourself and help stop the killing of innocent animals that are supposed to be “safe in rescue”…..really, you can.

All you have to do is:

*admit that talented scam – artists operating on social media managed to fool you with their puffery, misrepresentation, embellishments, and blatant, pathological LYING,

*think for yourself,

*don’t be afraid of not belonging to a killing team, a murderous village, a heathen tribe,

*and care enough about animals to ask questions,

*and if/WHEN  logical, concise answers are NOT forth-coming,

*you will file complaints with organizations and agencies that will get answers one way or another in order to,

*protect “rescued animals” from being USED, BETRAYED, and KILLED by those running con-games posing as rescuers in DONATION-FUELED rescue.


It IS that easy to become a hero for animals,

to be their voice,

EXPOSING those that will never stop exploiting them,

until YOU,

and YOU,

and thousands of YOU’s,

come together in harmony and love

to STOP the greedy, self-absorbed conscience-LESS traitors,

from hurting and killing animals,

with no questions asked and answered,

UNLESS and UNTIL they are persistently demanded.

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Oh, and by-the-way, those people that are on the Board of Directors or are Officers in these “rescues” that wantonly and callously KILL healthy, innocent animals that are supposed to be “safe in rescue” that were “rescued” USING DONATED FUNDS?

You may think you can plead ignorance and innocence regarding the misuse of donated funds AND the KILLING of healthy, innocent rescued animals.

However, YOU are supposed to be the “checks and balances” that help keep people HONEST and doing the unselfish work of NONPROFIT animal rescue.

Unfortunately, narcissistic, manipulative, sociopathic people are OFTEN only “into” animal rescue for the free money flowing in, the free animals they attain USING other peoples money that they can sell, and the accolades whereby animals in need are mere props, pawns, and a vehicle to celebrity and attention.

When you do suspect shady and/or illegal activities, or are suspicious of WHY so many animals are being killed, or are simply disappearing at an alarming rate and your questions go unanswered, or if you are the Treasurer in charge of the finances for the nonprofit and you’re unable to balance the books and/or are having difficulty figuring out what donation money is being spent on, IF you possess a conscience, or IF you have a sense of self-preservation, you would be well advised to distance yourself from questionable dealings and a rescue that is not as it appears.

Taking it an ethical step farther, whistle blowing may be in order to protect animals, and protect yourself, for the simple reason that when the domino’s begin to topple, even “if” you are an honest, ethical person, YOU will be painted with the same broad, tainted brush as the crooks and criminals because you didn’t say a word about the bad things that were happening at the “rescue” you were involved with.




Lyin’, Lying, Pathological Liars Operating in Donation-Funded FOR-PROFIT Animal Rescue – Kill Shelters

AKA – They kill and disappear innocent animals, don’t they?


Everyone watches the vile pattern of behavior unfold, as many primarily, or entirely donation-funded animal rescues-kill shelters, that are no better than generational welfare (FREE money) recipients workin’-it in the unregulated free-for-all that is the social media arena, attain more, and more, and more animals using donation money, and then refuse to tell the public WHERE IN THE HELL ARE ALL OF THE ANIMALS DISAPPEARING TOO and/or WHY ARE YOU KILLING RESCUED ANIMALS WITHOUT SHOWING VET REPORTS DETAILING WHY THE ANIMAL MUST BE PUT-DOWN?!?!?

It begs the question “why isn’t the concerned animal loving public doing more to get answers regarding the WHEREABOUTS of animals that are supposed to be safe at rescues that attained the animals through the USE of donation money?”


Here’s why, and if you don’t believe this is a primary reason people don’t pursue answers, go ahead and ask questions of your favorite donation-funded rescue that attains a lot of animals whose whereabouts are unknown mere days or months from when they were rescued:

ALL of the donation-funded “rescues” that tend to attain a lot of animals, but then won’t account for EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM after being attained with donated funds, have “enablers” and cult-members ready and willing to go on the attack on behalf of their gurus at the rescue – kill shelter they are ignorant followers of.

These nasty, vicious, chump followers can be counted on to go on the attack on people that ask simple, concise, straight-forward questions that honest rescues using donated funds to rescue and take care of animals will happily answer.

It’s quite easy to separate the real and good donation-funded animal rescues from the shady ones, that often are lowlife animal dealers posing as “rescues”;

all one needs to do is ask straight-forward, targeted questions and see if they readily answer, or instead they go into evasion-mode, they sic their brainwashed, idiotic, but vicious like a rabid dog cult followers on you, you have bogus false reports filed against you by “anonymous complainants, and other equally nasty things occur suddenly.

These sub-humans can be counted on to bully, threaten, belittle, defame, threaten, stalk, and even call in “false reports” (which is ILLEGAL by the way) to taxpayer-funded government agencies.

This is a quote from an expert on stalking:

“Organized Gang Stalking is a form of terrorism used against an individual in a malicious attempt to reduce the quality of a person’s life so they will:

have a nervous break-down, become incarcerated, institutionalized, experience constant mental, emotional, or physical pain, become homeless, and/or commit suicide.

This is done using well-orchestrated accusations, lies, rumors, bogus investigations, setups, framings, intimidation, overt or covert threats, vandalism, thefts, sabotage, torture, humiliation, emotional terror and general harassment.

It is a “ganging up” by members of the community, and via the Internet, who follow an organizer and participate in a systematic “terrorizing” of an individual.

Organized gang stalking can involve a group in the hundreds to thousands harassing a single person or family 24/7. The victim is stalked en masse by car, foot, bike, air and Internet in order alienate and isolate the victim. 

The goals of gang stalking are to:

Provoke the victim to assault someone and get arrested; 

Make the victim seem delusional/ mentally ill (see “gaslighting”);

Make the victim so depressed they become suicidal. 

Tactics used are relentless color harassment, noise harassment, air harassment, hand signals, electronic monitoring inside the home and car (complete invasion of privacy; 

redirecting of phone calls, emails, postal mail),

via social media, workplace mobbing, “directed conversation” and innuendo,

erratic/ aggressive driving, bizarre/rude/bullying behavior in the community, and much more.

This is extreme criminal activity that is becoming more common and needs to be outlawed.”

As more and more animal lovers donate and support rescues from afar (they follow the rescue via social media because they live hundreds, if not thousands of miles away – and if not for social media they do their carnie-fund-raising on to finagle money out of naive “marks”, MOST of these “retail rescues” wouldn’t even be in business – whereby they are not at the rescue facility to keep track of where the rescued animals are, more and more of these people are asking targeted questions regarding the “rescued animals” whereabouts and wellbeing.

Additionally, people are asking for documentation such as:

*vet reports that fundraisers were run to pay for veterinary services for the rescued animals,

*vet reports and euthanasia reports describing WHY an animal HAD to be put down,

*itemized vet bills for each particular horse the “rescue says” their vet is looking at, examining, and evaluating,

*number of animals rescued in the past year and current, date – stamped photos of the animals showing their condition,

*numbers of adoptions in the previous month featuring current photos of the animals in their new home,

*receipts for vet care,

*feed for animals,

*body disposal bills.

Very telling is when a primarily, or entirely donation-funded (as opposed to a primarily, or entirely self-funded animal rescue whose operators pay for everything, or most everything pertaining to the rescue with their own money) animal rescue becomes evasive, refuses to answer simple questions and provide documentation they should have.

A huge red flag is when the rescues true believer cult followers begin assaulting people asking questions by bullying, belittling, threatening, stalking, using foul, inappropriate language, name calling, and also calling in false reports to taxpayer-funded government agencies (illegal, but this happens A LOT).

If, or when this happens, the person being assaulted should start collecting screenshots of the lack of answers to their questions posed to the rescue, and also of the assaults by thug-followers of the “rescue” ‘gang bullying”, which will be sent to various law enforcement and other government agencies such as the Attorney Generals and Secretary of States offices that are in charge of investigating nonprofit animal rescues, along with detailed written complaints.

If more animal lovers would follow-through regarding asking questions that are supposed to be rescued, and also file complaints to the appropriate government agencies regarding animals that are supposed to be “rescued and safe” uthrough the use of asked for, and received “designated donations”, there would/will be far fewer “bad apple opportunist rescues” out for personal profit and gain USING animals as “props” and “bait”, and the rescues doing real rescue that they are not profiting and gaining from would get more much needed support.

Be sure to also include the entire Board of Directors for the rescue because even if unaware of wrongdoing, they are just as culpable as the people doing the shady and/or illegal activities at the rescue.

The Board of Directors are supposed to act as “checks and balances” for the rescue, so even if they aren’t “hands on” at the rescue, they are still supposed to be aware of the operations at the rescue.

Animal lovers in the public:

Don’t be sucked in, and become addicted to the entertain, excitment, and drama  that is spoon-fed to you by showboating, reality show-type animal rescues that are often operated by extreme narcissists, “puffers”, pathological liars, and even sociopaths that mostly care about themselves and not anything, or anyone else.

Real and honest animal rescue is not fireworks and drama – instead, the real, everyday rescuing and caring for rescued animals are labors of love, and is often about as exciting and entertaining as watching grass grow or paint dry.

In other words, don’t be the fool that’s born everyday and fall for what the opportunists and connivers in donation-funded rescue are trying to sell you in the form of drama and entertainment that you can live vicariously through them to rev-up the somewhat mundane daily life you lead.

True animal lovers couldn’t care less about being entertained, or living vicariously through the “actors” in donation-funded animal rescue because their primary concern and bottom-line is ALWAYS for the animals that are rescued, and also WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM AFTER THEY ARE RESCUED, so the manic antics of the “rescuers” at a reality-show-type “rescue” is mere distraction and smoke-and-mirrors designed to distract and deceive.

Commercial Horse Slaughter – “Cut Off the Serpent’s Head” and The Cruel Industry May Very Well Cease

Commercial Horse Slaughter – “Cut Off the Serpent’s Head” and The Cruel Industry May Very Well Cease

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Long post to follow on a critical issue topic:

The articles at the links below are related to the ability to have inspections paid for by tax payers regarding horses being sent to commercial horse slaughter in the United States:


Excerpt from the article at the link:

“The U.S. House of Representatives Appropriations Committee has rejected an amendment to its agriculture funding bill that would have prevented the USDA from paying personnel to conduct inspections at horse processing plants in the United States.In 2007 a combination of legislation and court rulings shuttered the last existing U.S. horse processing plants, which were located in Illinois and Texas. Congress continued to prevent U.S.-based horse processing by passing amendments that stripped the USDA of funding for inspections at facilities that process horsemeat for human consumption.”

and this link is a call for people to contact their representatives to STOP the funding by TAX PAYERS to commercially slaughter horses in the United States again:


Excerpt from the above link

“We need to pressure our representatives in the House to get on board and defund USDA inspections of horse slaughter facilities. Stop horse slaughter from happening the United States! Use this link: http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/ to find and contact your House of Representatives members. Let them know how you will vote if they allow horse slaughter facilities in the United States to open! ~ HfH”


Here’s An Idea to Consider From An Anti-Commercial Horse Slaughter Perspective:

Make the primary “suppliers” of horses into the slaughter pipeline HAVE to PAY to dump horses they don’t want (and remember, these suppliers of horses into the commercial horse slaughter pipeline aren’t “making” money. However, they ARE SAVING thousands of dollars annually by not having to humanely euthanize their unwanted horses and dispose of their bodies), by the hundreds annually sometimes for a single “supplier”, and watch HOW FAST the supply of numbers of horses DROPS.

Require the “suppliers” to have full accountability regarding any drugs contained in the horse, vaccinations, dewormers (which by-the-way, the packaging on dewormers and vaccinations reads “do not use in horses intended for human consumption”), supplements, feed through fly control, etc

Then make the people who are the “opportunists” (sales/auctions, horse traders and kill buyers – as portrayed in the photo above soliciting for horses to sell for slaughter – feedlots, transporters, slaughterhouses), have to have their own set of rules, laws, and regulations that do not affect ANTI-horse slaughter horse owners and only relate to those that deal in horse slaughter.

Then not only would the “opportunists” have to pay more fees for things related to horses being commercially slaughtered (a food-chain timeline and history on the horse included in the sale of the horse from the supplier, drug testing, humane euthanasia if the horse was found to be full of drugs which taints the meat, etc), they also won’t have a SUPPLY of horses they can make money and a living off of, and like “opportunists” everywhere, they will HAVE to look for opportunities elsewhere.


Anyone that KNOWS how the commercial horse slaughter industry works KNOWS that it IS NOT the horse hobbyist owners and small breeders that are disposing of their horses for FREE into the multi-billion dollar annually horse slaughter industry pipeline in any kind of significant, massive numbers that would ever come close annually to the estimated 150,000+/- horses a year shipping out of the United States alone for slaughter. Those numbers DO NOT include the numbers for other countries where the same types of suppliers that are outlined below exist.

The real “suppliers” ARE the mass production breeders, the wealthy owners of multiple horses, the trainers that start horses too young, use them too hard (the primary culprits are trainers for racing, reining, cutting, reined cow horse, and also in hunter/jumpers as well), the ranching industry, some Native American Tribes, and even the United States government.

The trainer “suppliers” dispose of their unwanted horses for free when they break-down, and are often held together through their competition years with all kinds of drugs so they can “finish” competing, win the money, get the points, make their offspring if they go to be breeders worth more money, etc.

And Heaven help the geldings after their usefulness is over because they will ship with most/many of them because if they’re messed up physically and/or mentally, and have no breeding value, what good are they is many peoples thinking.

For horses with good or great breeding that are stallions and mares, they may be used for a number of years for breeding, but tragically, the outcome is OFTEN the same when their usefulness in that area runs out and they too eventually ship to slaughter frequently when mares are barren, stallions are impotent, the offspring are “nothing special” for whatever reasons, or breeding is being phased out for new or different breeding and no one else wants an older breeding stock horse.

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To be sure, some owners of multiple horses that they pay to be managed are not totally aware of exactly WHERE their horse goes after the horse is injured, or retired from competing, or breeding, or can’t be sold for any significant money – yes, some owners really are this clueless, or they really just DON’T want to know.

This is because they are not “hands-on” owners, they may not see their horses very often, especially with racehorses where many of the owners only see their horses when they race, unless they’re competing, and some don’t even know the names of the breeding stock horses they have because they own so many, and the horse is identified by a number on a tag or band around their neck for the broodmares on some of the huge breeding farms.

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The owners are clueless regarding their horses going to slaughter because the trainers and/or the farm manager will tell them things like “I found your horse a really great home” and like people everywhere nowadays that DON’T really want to know what the REALITY of WHAT is going on, these owners don’t ask questions and take what the trainer or ranch manager as telling them the gospel truth, when its a dreadful lie and their horse isn’t in a “good home” at all.

Seriously, who really wants a partially, or completely untrained 20 year old brood mare with bad knees, or a sway back, or chronic founder, or any number of other things?

But far be it for the people that OWN or manage the horse to 1st TRY to find the horse an honest-to-God sanctuary and/or a good home to go to in order to live the rest of their lives in peace even if they can’t be used for anything.
Failing finding a home, these people OWE it to that horse to have them HUMANELY euthanized. But since disposal is entirely FREE through commercial horse slaughter, many/most of the people with this type of mindset (insensitivity to the suffering of the horse) won’t and don’t even try to save the horse suffering and off the horse goes on the horrendous, terrifying trip through the commercial slaughter pipeline.

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As long as an entirely FREE disposal system of commercial horse slaughter exists, human nature of greed, insensitivity, cruelty, etc will ALWAYS get the best of some people when they don’t have a conscience, a heart, or a soul that causes them to “feel” anything or think twice before shipping a horse to inhumane and CRUEL horse slaughter.

Of course, some owners do in fact KNOW precisely where their horse went because all they were after was the FREE disposal of their damaged horse and these people are despicable.

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“Suppliers” Continued:

Other “suppliers” include the huge ranches scattered in the Western States and Midwest with their breeding remuda’s, that often roam on huge acreage ranches, and sometimes public land as well where grazing fee’s are cheap, that breed large numbers of horses for various uses which include working ranch horses, horses for sale to outside buyers, used for reining, cutting, etc.
They take really beautiful horses directly to the feedlot, where they are sold “by the pound” to the kill buyer, or sometimes there will be a “ranch dispersal sale” at the sale/auction yard where many of the horses are purchased by kill buyers.

Another group that tends to use the commercial horse slaughter industry are *some* of the Native American tribes.
Their reservation horses typically breed unchecked for years, sometimes also co-mingle with federally protected wild horses on public/federal land in the western states, and when it’s time to “cull”, sell, and train some horses, the tribes do a round-up, they “sort” the horses, and MANY of them do end up being shipped to slaughter without them even trying to secure good homes and/or find sanctuary for their cast-off’s.

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The Native American Tribes that do this could actually do a lot of good things, they could make money, they could clean-up their image by not selling horses into the commercial horse slaughter pipeline, and they could demonstrate the love and respect they have for horses (remember, we’re talking about disposal of horses through COMMERCIAL horse slaughter, NOT a swift bullet-to-the-brain, a quick death, and then the meat being eaten amongst Tribe members – that type of death is considered humane by many) by organizing public programs of people that would PAY to adopt horses, they would PAY to learn the Tribes history, they would PAY to learn horse training methods from offering clinics with various clinicians, people will PAY to learn a lot of things.

It would take marketing and organization, but these could be beneficial, wonderful programs where everyone, including the horses, are winners.

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Not Pleasant; The “Elephant in the Room” That No One Talks About But Something HAS To Be Said to Expose Those That Do This Low-Down Stuff:

Although not typically sending horses to slaughter in mass numbers, this group in the horse world are considered both “suppliers” and “opportunists”.

This behavior is unethical, and often involves illegal activates, so in order to acknowledge “the elephant in the room” and attempt to protect horses from those that are supposed to be rescuing them, it must be discussed.
It is a betrayal against horses and is a trust-breaker for people that are followers and donors to these type of rescues that use the commercial horse slaughter industry to save and/or make money as “suppliers” and “opportunists”.

Many people will be shocked to know that *some* of the donation-funded horse “rescues”, that use donated funds to “rescue” horses from various places, also utilize the commercial horse slaughter pipeline to dispose of un-useable horses.

Sometimes horses are shuttled into the slaughter pipeline by 1-4 horses and their followers are told the horses “were adopted”, “they’re being fostered”, “they’re at a sanctuary”, and other false utterings.

However, *some* horse “rescues” that “rescue”/buy larger numbers of horses in one fell swoop at auctions that sell ranch horse dispersals (the ranches breeding stock that live on the large acreage ranches often are not trained, and are literally “wild” in many instances), “reservation horses (many of these horses are also “wild”/untrained), when the “rescue” does large seizures of horses aka “rescue raids” and “seizure scams”, etc, either DO NOT take horses back to their “rescue” facility at all if it is evident they have “issues”, or after arrival at the “rescue” facility and after “sorting”, it is apparent the horse isn’t “good for anything”, these horses are quietly and secretly “back-doored”, often through a “middleman” so the “paper trail” is more convoluted, into the slaughter pipeline.
Because of this type of thing happening, it is important that donation-funded horse rescues publicly post photos, vet reports, and other documentation for ALL of the horses the horse rescue “says” they are rescuing.
On-going photos and documentation should also be posted at regular intervals and that would keep suspicion of wrong-doing from ever entering the picture. And when questions are asked by the public, they should be promptly and easily answered when a horse rescue is honest, accountable, transparent, and above reproach.

“Some” ‘rescues’ (factual, documented proof of this occurring), have relationships with kill buyers that they tend to keep on the “down low” and only infrequently do they speak publicly about their  intertwined business dealings and relationships with them.

However, people that KNOW the horse industry forward-and-backwards KNOW exactly what is going on with the “rescues” that down-play their relationships with horse traders and kill buyers that operate throughout the United States, which includes the few states such as California and New Jersey where ANY commercial horse slaughter dealings are illegal.

Some horse rescues work through “middlemen” and “back-door” horses into the commercial horse slaughter pipeline that they have already collected as much as they can in “sympathy/pity” donations on, but the horse has “issues” which make them difficult, if not impossible, to find homes for and far be it for the “rescues” to take and maintain responsibility for these horses they are supposed to have rescued, and that don’t want to be killed just because they have physical and/or behavioral issues and are un-useable for anything.

Because most horse rescues are not “in the business” of caring for and maintaining horses with physical and/or behavioral issues for months or years:

1. and the cost of humane euthanasia and body disposal is expensive, when they are dealing in larger numbers,

2. producing vet reports and euthanasia reports and billings that explains precisely WHY the horse had to be killed

3. is something MOST horse rescues are NOT willing to share publicly because what they “say” is wrong with a horse often will not correlate with what their vet is saying is wrong (if anything)

4. and collecting donations on horses and not telling the supportive, donating public where the horse/s they were told the rescue was rescuing ARE

5. is illegal

6. it is misrepresentation

7.and it is fraud

Some horse “rescues”, after “sorting” the horses they “rescued” using donation-dollars, work with horse traders and kill buyers regarding quietly disposing of their “reject horses” where no ones the wiser except for the participating parties.

When this happens, its already bad enough that it happens in states where it is perfectly legal for kill buyers and feedlots to be operating openly at sales and other places where it is not hidden because it is still LEGAL.

But even in those states where the commercial horse slaughter trade is still legal, rescues disposing of horses into the commercial horse slaughter pipeline is OBVIOUSLY NOT rescue.

It is also obvious that if their donors KNEW they were:

1. killing as many horses as they do without showing vet and euthanasia reports and bills on ALL of the horses to have a licensed professionals (their vets) opinion on why the horse HAD to be killed they’re rescuing and USING other peoples money to do it (which makes donors “enablers” whether they know it, or not)

2. but even more disgusting is when they “back-door” horses they’re supposed to have “rescued” into the commercial slaughter pipeline because these “rescues” would NOT be receiving the support and/or the $$$$$ from even the most naïve and trusting people that rescue from afar IF donors KNEW what they were doing with reject “horses with issues”.

However, when this same stuff noted above happens in states where the commercial horse slaughter trade is ILLEGAL (in California for instance, the commercial horse slaughter trade has been illegal since November 3, 1998, New Jersey’s is more recent in the 2000’s and a few other states have horse slaughter bans of varying degrees of being illegal), but the naïve, gullible public is constantly being asked to help horse rescues “SAVE”/”RESCUE” horses from the sale/auction, from the kill buyer, from whomever is saying they are going to ship them to slaughter, that is just plain WRONG, it IS NOT RESCUE, and it is doubly heinous when they are in a state where the commercial horse slaughter industry is ILLEGAL for ANYONE to be participating in it – it is bluntly put. “opportunistic”.

Horse “rescues” as described above are being looked at by government agencies (the states Attorney General’s office, local law enforcement, the states Department of Agriculture for starters) whose job and responsibility it is to of ‘police’ those laws that are in place to PROTECT horses and prosecute criminals breaking the law (kill buyers, sale and auction yards that allow KNOWN kill buyers to operate from the sale yard. transporters) that the VOTERS voted on that are designed to PREVENT horses from being shipped into the commercial horse slaughter pipeline.

It is still considered breaking the law in a few states where horse slaughter dealings are illegal if a private party buys a horse at a sale, takes it home, finds out the horse has “issues”, they see no point in going forward with feeding and caring for a useless horse, so they deal direct with a horse trader/kill buyer and they sell the horse to the kill buyer/feedlot instead of running it back through a sale where the horse “might” have a chance of being bought by a legitimate horse rescue.
If they get caught doing this, they (the private party seller) *might* be prosecuted because when horse slaughter dealings are banned and against the law, the law is only as good as the enforcement, or lack thereof, and only IF law enforcement isn’t simply turning a blind eye to it as frequently happens.

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However, it is NOT ONLY ILLEGAL in multiple ways, for horse rescues to do this same thing when they end up with horses with issues, it is also UNETHICAL, and how ANY rescue or rescuer could EVER do this ULTIMATE BETRAYAL to a horse is unfathomable other than to say they are scam-artists, they are “opportunists”, and NONE of the people associated with the “rescues” that do these dreadful things, including their Board of Directors, volunteers, trainers, and on-going donors, are in possession of a soul.

Primarily-, or wholly- DONATION-FUNDED “rescues” horse trading and/or breeding operations in those states where horse slaughter is illegal that:

1.  deal with horse traders and kill buyers directly at their feedlot/holding area

2. deal with them indirectly whereby they collect donations to “rescue” buy (considered misrepresentation because it is “buying” not “rescuing”, and in states where the horse slaughter trade is illegal, and they are also using the threat of the horse going to slaughter as an opportunity to squeeze donations out of trusting donors) horses by bidding against kill buyers {they usually KNOW}

3. at sales/auctions

4. when the REALITY is that crimes are being committed at every sale yard and auction

5. that allows kill buyers to operate there

are being dishonest, disrespectful, and disingenuous with those in the public that don’t always understand how horse rescue works and are TRUSTING the horse rescues to “do the right thing” on behalf of the horses in their state where the voters voted to make horse slaughter dealings illegal.
Kill buyers operating at all in states where horse slaughter dealings are illegal would be fairly easy to slow down to a trickle and get some of the kill buyers prosecuted.
However, as long as horse rescues use the threat of slaughter as an “opportunity” to receive thousands in donations from people that don’t KNOW its illegal, or they do know but these fake horse rescues tell them “there’s nothing we can do to stop it”, it will continue, horses will continue to go to slaughter, and the voting to ban horse slaughter was all for nothing.

The final insult on peoples intelligence and their TRUST regarding rescues pertaining to some/many (?) “rescues” is when they spout off about their “very high rehab rate” and even their “100% rehabilitation rate” which must include those horses they have killed or funneled into the commercial slaughter pipeline.

Patently ABSURD to spout off about a 100% rehabilitation rate considering HOW MANY animals some/many of these retail rescues “put down”, or that simply disappear into THIN AIR!

That is the primary reason they don’t have any horses (or other animals) at their “rescue” weeks or months after “rescuing them” that are still thin, skinny, are ill with chronic issues, are mild to moderately lame but the horse still wants to live, etc.
Because they KILL them (sometimes openly telling their followers, but usually secretly where very few people know what’s happened), or ship them, and they call that “rehabilitation, they cry and boo-hoo their phony tears, give their corrupt and vile reasoning and rational on “why” they MUST KILL animals, just as they REFUSE to post vet reports and euthanasia reports and billings for every, single horse they “rescued” using other peoples money in the form of donations and/or grants, and only the most gentle, trusting and naïve believe any of that tripe.
Even the most gullible might believe everything is not as they are being told if when they asked for vet reports and euthanasia reports for horses that “had” to be “put down”, when they weren’t forthcoming for every single horse they *might* start to figure out they are being lied to.

To clear up a few questions: if the rescue is primarily or wholly SELF-FUNDED, they can do whatever they want in terms of killing horses they’ve gotten in that have issues, putting them through a sale if they so desire, or dispose of them in other ways if they don’t want to maintain them using their own money they work to earn.
This is true because they don’t RELY on the public to send donations in order so they can operate.

If they instead decide to take care of horses no one else wants, they don’t automatically kill or disappear or give away for free horses that have “issues”, than that too is THEIR prerogative.

Not that a legitimate rescue, that’s not involved in questionable extracurricular activities that aren’t “rescue”, would dispose of horses in a cruel, or callous way even if they are self-funded, but they legally can send them off “wherever”, give them away for free with no adoption contract or agreement in order to make sure they haven’t been given to horse traders or kill buyers, etc because if and when a rescue is primarily or wholly self-funding and using THEIR OWN MONEY to “rescue” and operate, and they are NOT soliciting donations, running fundraisers constantly (as “retail rescues” tend to do because without donations they will fold because the primary players often do not have jobs to support the operation of their rescue retail animal sales business)  and using other peoples money they ask for and receive in the form of donations, material goods, grants, etc, their responsibility to answer to “the public” that is not supporting them financially becomes a “volunteering of information”, and not a legal, moral, and ethical OBLIGATION to the donating public, to organizations that award grant money, etc.

Honest and ethical donation-funded animal rescues have no problem with furnishing any and all information that is asked for by the trusting and generous donating public, and when a donation-funded rescue will not clearly and readily answer questions without a bunch of double-talk, intelligent animal lovers find another rescue to donate to and support.

Dishonest animal rescues, that are nothing more than horse traders posing as rescues, show their true colors again and again when they constantly ask the public for money, but then refuse to answer simple and reasonable questions, posed to them by that same public they want money from frequently, in a timely manner that can then be FACT-CHECKED for accuracy, truthfulness and honesty.

Stories at the links of examples of an individual posing as a rescuer getting free horses and selling them to slaughter and a forest preserve that accepts donations from the public and relies on public support in order to operate. They disposed of two older horses at a low-level kill sale where most probably they went to slaughter.

Some simple but targeted questions in either of these scenarios could have protected horses from the terror of commercial horse slaughter:



The secrecy, lack of accountability and transparency, deceitful and sly behavior on the part of horse rescues that directly, or indirectly, ship horses to slaughter will catch up with these callous, unfeeling people sooner-or-later in the form of complaints from the public being investigated by law enforcement, AG’s offices, and DA’s in the county’s, city’s, and towns they operate in. – its just a matter of time.

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AND FINALLY, One More “Supplier”:
The United States government has been knuckling under to private business interests that WANT the public/federal and public/state Open Range land in the Western States to do with as they please, at American taxpayers expense and through FREE money subsidies, for DECADES, beginning from the moment the Free Roaming Wild Horse and Burro (Protection) Act was signed into law in 1971.

Instead of federally protected wild horses being PRIMARILY managed in the wild as per the LAW, they are being systematically ERADICATED, “warehoused” in long and short term holding corrals and pastures, and since it is impossible (it would seem) to keep count of horses captured, where those horses are in the system,, who has them, etc, some, perhaps many wild horses not only lost their freedom, they have lost their lives from commercial horse slaughter.

While most wild horse advocates and rescuers mean well and are very passionate about protecting wild horses, more will be written in another blog post regarding why their concerns regarding for the most part non-essential items for the captive wild horses may in fact spell doom and death by commercial horse slaughter if priorities are not re-examined and leadership in the advocacy ranks is not forthcoming to keep advocates and rescuers “on point” for the critical issue of primary management of wild horses and burros in the wild as per the Protection Act of 1971.

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HOW TO STOP the Commercial Horse Slaughter Industry in the United States and Elsewhere Too:

It is said “we can’t save every horse” and that is a true story.

It is also rationalized by many people that un-useable horses be “put down” by those vested with rescuing them.
That is another option if donation-funded-rescues are willing to post vet and euthanasia reports on every horse seen by the vet to show euthanasia is the only option and would also prove if some rescues aren’t just spouting fictional sob-stories regarding WHY they MUST KILL horses. The “rescues” that try and “pull the wool” over the publics, law enforcement, and the medias eyes are usually the ones whose number of “saves” aren’t adding up at all with the numbers going out on adoptions, that are in foster homes, the numbers they have announced they have “had” to kill, and those horses still at their facility, etc.

However, there would be a lot fewer horses to have to try and save and far fewer horses would be making the terrifying one-way trip to slaughter if it is organized so that the “suppliers”  listed above HAVE to PAY to dispose of horses instead of being able to dump for free.

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THAT would effectively “cut off the multiple heads of the serpent” as described above so-to-speak, mass production breeders will be FORCED to breed for QUALITY over quantity when disposal ends up costing thousands upon thousands of dollars where before it was FREE, trainers would train for SUCCESS and LONGEVITY instead of just for success, and the “opportunists” mentioned above will also be FORCED to look for other opportunities in order to make their money and keep their heads above water if

1. there is NOT a good enough supply of horses anymore that they can continue making a living from

2. and they also have more stringent rules, regulations, and laws they must abide by.

What is NEEDED are RULES, REGULATIONS and LAWS pertaining ONLY to “suppliers” and “opportunists” aka “those that deal in horse slaughter whether directly or indirectly”, so that horse owners that are 100% against commercial horse slaughter DO NOT get dinged with having to PAY and ABIDE-BY rules, laws and regulations that will GOVERN ALL HORSE OWNERS for horses that WILL BE considered FOOD CHAIN ANIMALS like cattle, sheep, pigs, chickens, etc.

THAT has already been tried once with the National Animal Identification System (NAIS) that was rolled-out and shot-down several years ago.

But these people NEVER GIVE UP and are most likely busily working on other ways to make ALL horse owners, whether pro- or anti- horse slaughter have rules and pay toward the monstrous annual MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR commercial horse slaughter industry.

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It is up to anti-commercial horse slaughter owners (that are in the majority) to GET INVOLVED, ORGANIZE, SPEAK-UP and GET GOING on putting forth rules and regulations that WILL GOVERN ONLY those people that DO DEAL directly and/or indirectly in the commercial horse slaughter industry so that ALL horse owners aren’t stuck being forced to PAY for things that pertain to horses as food chain animals, and also being forced to abide by rules and laws and pay fee’s that don’t pertain to them in the least because they are completely and totally anti-commercial horse slaughter.
In other words, the anti-commercial horse slaughter folks that are in the MAJORITY should NOT have rules, laws and regulations that only pertain to commercial horse slaughter proponents that are in the MINORITYTHAT would be a completely upside-down and backwards way of thinking and governing!

SLOW DOWN or STOP the “SUPPLIERS” funneling a mass supply of horses into the commercial slaughter pipeline, and the “opportunists” listed above will have NO CHOICE but to look elsewhere for other opportunities to make money that don’t include sending horses to inhumane, horrific, and terrifying commercial horse slaughter.

If these rules, laws and regulations AREN’T put in place that strictly govern those people that directly or indirectly SAVE and/or MAKE MONEY in the commercial horse slaughter industry, then commercial horse slaughter in ANY and ALL countries NEEDS to be BANNED for the very simple reason that there wouldn’t be excess horses if the “suppliers” weren’t able to dump horses they don’t want for FREE.

This includes the export of live horses out-of-the-country for slaughter so that people that are 100% against commercial horse slaughter (this does not include an owner shooting their own horse and consuming the meat) are NOT affected and/or participating with their tax-dollars, or their hard-earned income, in something they believe is not only unnecessary, but is also INHUMANE and CRUEL from the very second the innocent horse enters the commercial horse slaughter pipeline.”

THEFT of Animals Under Color-of-Law – THIS NEEDS to STOP!

The story at the link below demonstrates ALL of the elements of an ILLEGAL seizure scam or rescue raid.

We have “the neighbor” whose been complaining about this veterinarians horses for years according to the “reporter” on the scene and they are USING TAX PAYER-FUNDED government agencies to go after people they have some kind of “problem” with.

Then there is the “rescue” that appears to be behaving just like a “retail rescue” and is NOT really there to “help” the owner of the horses and the horses but we can bet a million dollars NO ONE has checked THEM out and run background checks on them – not even the District Attorney!

We have a tax payer-funded government agency (the DA’s office) appearing to be in on the scam that MOST LIKELY doesn’t even have ANY, or much of any, information on this handy-dandy animal rescue loading up and literally STEALING someone’s horses because all that the so-called rescue has to say to anyone is “we’re a rescue” and everyone “call’s it good”.

And finally, no seizure scam is complete without bringing in the MEDIA to sensationalize the whole event so the donation-dollars come pouring into the “rescues” coffers because they USUALLY DO NOT have money of their OWN to take care of animals because most, if not all, of the primary players at the “rescue” don’t have JOBS outside of rescue because “rescue is their job” (must be nice to collect free money using the media and the District Attorney’s office to do it!):


Is there some kind of law in Texas that makes it a crime if animal owners own and care for acute or chronically ill animals, old animals, injured animals, etc?

If yes, than that “rescue” and that DA that got the search warrant are going to be kept very, very busy going after any and all people that have animals that are not in prime condition at all times.

If there is not a law that says animal owners cannot own and take care of various types of animals in various phase of their lives, than why the heck were ALL of these animals seized, without at the very least, another vet first being hired to come to the property, run blood panels, examine horses hands-on, etc?

Furthermore, why is the media in there on this at all?

Oh, that’s right, because its NOT a successful what the FBI calls an Animal Enterprise Terrorism (AET) attack aka “seizure scam” or “rescue raid” without the media blasting the story sensationally all over the airwaves.

The newscaster comes right out and say’s on the video the horses are being starved.


How does she know that?

How does anyone know that?

How does anyone know why some of the horses may be thin, or even skinny?

Are people really so like sheep being led and manipulated by others as to think that horses don’t get sick, whether acutely or chronically, they don’t get old and have old age conditions, or perhaps have their up’s and downs in weight for a multitude of reasons – JUST LIKE PEOPLE HAVE sometimes/often because of various conditions, the phase of life they’re in, or sometimes people are skinny/thin for no known reason whatsoever.

And just because many of the women involved in animal rescue tend to be on the stocky, chunky, or sometimes obese side (not politically correct to write that, but it is something that is true and has to be pointed out) does not mean that its healthy for horses, or other animals, to be fat – it is NOT.

The horse owner should sue in a civil suit the you-know-what out of the county, the “rescue”, and the news station for them saying the horses are being starved when they couldn’t know that for sure unless evaluations, blood tests like CBC’s, and other diagnostics are done.

Without knowing that information on the horses, these horses may end up being fed and taken care of improperly by the rescue (MANY horses end up with acute laminitis episodes that are life threatening and often lead to chronic founder/sore-footedness issues, they have severe colic caused by gas (considered a “moving impaction”), obstructions, the cecum is over-loaded and endo-toxins are released, aggressive deworming leads to a major die-off of parasites that cause blockages, enteritis, horses going off feed and water that leads to electrolyte imbalances which is also life-threatening, animals can have severe reactions to being loaded up on 3, 4, and 5-way vaccines, etc) that no one probably has any background information that can be FACT-CHECKED on, as very few in the media, even though they’re supposed to be “reporters”, do, or the government agencies do either, because it appears to be “good enough” to just say “we’re a rescue”.

People that are suspicious of donation-funded animal rescues, that thus far have no oversight of being required to answer questions, will send them the questionnaire contained in the blog at this link, and also at the bottom of this blog post:


Interested parties should also read the statement issued by Dr. Don Henneke, the inventor of the body condition scoring system (BCS) for horses, before he passed away in 2012. He notes these seizures are occurring in epidemic numbers and the rescues are vastly mis-using his body condition scale:


And finally, for a run-down of how these “rescue raids” work, visit this link:


People should be ashamed of themselves for enabling disgruntled neighbors, “retail rescues”, and other individuals and entities to literally USE tax payer funded government agencies for their own gain and fulfill whatever warped agenda they have, whether just because they are angry at someone, someone is competitive with them in whatever area (donation-funded animal rescues ARE HIGHLY competitive with one another for FREE MONEY donations and a following and “Likes” on FB, so they are often at each other throats trying to “take out” their competition – MONEY CORRUPTS!), etc.

These seizure scams and rescue raids, where ALL of the animals are seized instead of “rescues” only taking the ones in debilitated, ill, or injured condition (and why are ALL of the animals taken on these seizures? The answer is in this blog post, and also in other of the blog posts written by the same author), are life-ruining, not just for the animals owner, but also for many of the animals after they’ve supposedly been “rescued”, but are then found to have physical and/or behavioral “issues” whereby they cannot be adopted out and these rescues get rid of them, or kill them in various ways and NO ONE CARES because they ONLY LOVE the drama and excitement of a “crisis rescue” and being able to ATTACK people over the Internet (where they are “safe”) that they DON’T even know.

And since no one in the public that attacked the animal owners bothers to check up on the animals after the so-called “rescue” has them, the ones that are killed or disappeared to “wherever” are NOT given a second thought and its like they never existed at all.
On the off-chance someone asks a few little questions, the “rescue” ALWAYS has a sob-story waiting in the wings to roll out of “why” they “had” to kill an animal they “rescued” but they NEVER show vet reports and euthanasia reports for ALL of the animals they “rescued” in a seizure and/or other type of “crisis rescue” – WHAT’S UP WITH THAT?

The Red Cross is even now being forced to show their financials and other pertinent information regarding their “rescue efforts” in Haiti:


It is long PAST DUE to hold primarily or wholly donation-funded animal rescues to account for A LOT of things, and there are questions contained in the questionnaire below at the link and also displayed that HONEST (not 1 donation-funded animal rescue has thus far filled out and returned the questionnaire to the sender, so its looking grim regarding honesty, accountability, and transparency in donation-funded animal rescue) donation-funded rescues WILL answer any and all questions regarding their financials, photos and vet reports on all animals “rescued” using donated funds, WHERE do ALL of the rescued animals END UP, display photos of WHERE they all ended up (and all of these rescues have very stringent adoption contracts and agreements and also contracts for foster homes too), are the animals dead or alive, if dead, how did their lives end, etc.

And with MANY of these “retail rescues” charging vastly INFLATED impound fee’s, MANY of the owners of animals that were seized that are not charged with ANYTHING and/or are only charged with a misdemeanor (so they DA can ACT like they’re “doing something” when NOTHING NEEDED to be done) CANNOT afford to get their animals used as pawns by so-called “rescues” out-of-hock, so they never get their animals back again.

A case in point is with the Joshua Rockwood case after he had horses and a pony unjustly seized by a “rescue”:


These shenanigans are exactly why its called “THE RESCUE RACKET”, because for MANY publicly-donation-funded “rescues” that have NO OVERSIGHT, it IS a money-making racketTHIS NEEDS TO STOP before more lives are ruined and/or lost.

People that don’t even know the animal owner, the “rescue”, or the animals, act like uncivilized heathens on a witch hunt.

However, as more people that have been victims of these attacks file civil lawsuits and smack the attackers in their wallets for defaming them, harassing them, stalking them, and threatening them without cause, hopefully these attacks, and people behaving like ignorant, uneducated idiots, will finally stop, and the real rescues will emerge that actually HELP animal owners (if they in fact need “help”) and their animals, they will fill out the questionnaire posted at the end of this blog with ALL of their information and will return it to the sender, and also will answer simple questions that “retail rescues” WON’T.

This would be a welcome and refreshing change from the current climate and agenda of “rescues” literally stealing peoples animals with the help of government agencies, that are USUALLY CLUELESS regarding the “rescues” credentials, and the ramping-up of “social media madness mobs” running amok.

And when “the swarm” and initial attack is over, the MOB then return to their trite little lives after they’ve ruined someone else’s and helped a “rescue” collect thousands of dollars in FREE money donations they don’t have to account for, NOR do they have to account for WHERE ALL of the so-called “rescued animals” end up after they are supposed to be “rescued”.

Too bad for the “rescued” animals that most peoples attention-spans DO NOT last long enough to follow-up for several months, or a few years AFTER the so-called “rescue” regarding WHAT the “rescue” did with ALL of the animals they seized/stole from their owners to make sure ALL of the animals really were rescued and this wasn’t simply the theft of someone’s horses, they attained thousands of dollars in free money donations that were begged for and were collected, horses the rescue got for free were SOLD (calling it adoption) and the problem horses with issues were killed or disappeared because no one wants to deal with taking care of useless horses, or other species of animals for that matter, for months or YEARS that can’t or won’t “DO” anything for people.

Below is the questionnaire for donation-funded rescues that participate in seizures, and that also organize “crisis rescues”, that are real money-makers in terms of bringing in thousands of dollars in free donation-money, they don’t have to account for, from the animal loving public that happen to be gullible and naïve regarding asking questions of rescues.

Please, if you really care about all animals and where they end up, you owe it to the animals supposedly being “rescued” to make sure they really are being rescued and are not simply and callously being used as PAWNS in the very NASTY “retail rescue” arena that is very competitive.

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